{"id":7948,"date":"2019-09-06T05:00:20","date_gmt":"2019-09-06T05:00:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/?p=7948"},"modified":"2019-09-06T05:47:17","modified_gmt":"2019-09-06T05:47:17","slug":"7948","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/?p=7948","title":{"rendered":"Bar Stool Sparrer Interview exclusive &#8211; Colin, Tom &#038; Bungle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7974 alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1365\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/40820649_1214719245353021_604014548055228416_o-1140x760.jpg 1140w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\" \/><\/a><strong>Fast rising Brighton based ska punkers The Bar Stool Preachers are just about to embark on their biggest UK headline tour to date, whilst tickets for the legendary Cock Sparrer\u2019s 2020 Not The Albert Hall UK club tour are one of the hottest on the scene right now.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RPM caught up with Preachers\u2019 vocalist T.J McFaull and bassist Bungle along with Colin McFaull lead singer with Cock Sparrer just a few weeks ago at Rebellion Festival to talk all about\u2026well, just about anything really.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>What follows is RPM interview gold as father and son (plus Bungle) \u2018Take \u2018Em All\u2019 on \u2018One By One\u2019 whilst \u2018Looking Lost\u2019 in the interview seat is one Johnny H.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>The last time I was sat in this very bar I was interviewing you Colin and I asked you this very question, so here it is with a very subtle twist. See if you can spot it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-8011 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n-65x65.jpg 65w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65604802_1430963407061936_1196030499378692096_n.jpg 747w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>I was stood watching you last night when it suddenly dawned on me that when The Bar Stool Preachers do the 20<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary \u2018Gracie Governo\u2019 tour I\u2019ll be 72 years old, so T.J. and Bungle tell me what\u2019s it like to be young? (laughing)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J.: (laughing) Well we\u2019ve never been busier; we\u2019ve never been more successful and we\u2019ve never been more broke. So, it&#8217;s brilliant being young. Although the years seem to be flying at the moment and suddenly, we do have to stop and think \u201chave we really played this place six or is it seven times now\u201d, and you kind of have to forget you are young and just crack on.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: The one thing people forget though is that being in a band doubles your age rate. (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>TJ: Yeah it\u2019s that and its also as a band you\u2019re only as young or old sorry as your youngest member<\/p>\n<p>Bungle; Why did you look at Col when you said that?<\/p>\n<p>T.J.: Well Daryl is keeping \u2018em tempered, to the ground (laughing) and we\u2019ve got Whibs in the band our drummer (Alex Whibley-Conway) and he\u2019s only 23 years old. So we really are a very young band (looking to Colin \u2013 and then follows loads of laughter)<\/p>\n<p><strong>We were only commenting yesterday that he\u2019s a real powerhouse for the band.<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-8001 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n-65x65.jpg 65w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/62436986_1414256508732626_8968184252860465152_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J.: Yeah we met him when he was 19. That\u2019s how long we\u2019d struggled on with our old drummer, and we kind of groomed him into it more than anything. The first couple of tours we let him do anything, let him run wild. Then it was next couple of tours smack the shit out of him if he did anything wrong and the subsequent 7 or 8 tours, he\u2019s been nothing short of amazing.<\/p>\n<p>He was a jazz drummer first and the way he plays music is just so intuitive and as such this next album is going to be so heavily drums lead. That\u2019s its just really fucking fun to listen to.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7980 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"4256\" height=\"2832\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302.jpg 4256w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Cock-Sparrer-@-rebellion-2019-by-dod-morrison-photography-302-1140x759.jpg 1140w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 4256px) 100vw, 4256px\" \/><\/a>As I wasn\u2019t expecting to get all of three of you in this interview, I\u2019ll open this one up to Colin too. What\u2019s it really like to play the Empress Ballroom at Rebellion?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Colin: Well this year will be our sixth time of playing it going right back to the days when the stage was on the other side of the room, and I\u2019ll be honest it\u2019s a difficult room, largely because the sound is not always great in there due to the acoustics, but the crowd are always fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>I think we still hold the record, yeah we had 6,500 in there back in 2008, and for health and safety reasons they now have a cap on it so you never get more than 3 to 3,500 in there.<\/p>\n<p>T.J.: As we found out yesterday (referring to the fact that people were turned away when The Bar Stool Preachers were on stage due to the venue capacity having been reached)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: It\u2019s just a really great venue<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8000 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"747\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n.jpg 750w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67765331_1463148690510074_2679881845482455040_n-65x65.jpg 65w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>So what was it like for you guys? (pointing at T.J. and Bungle)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J.: Bungle (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: Yeah, it was crazy. Words cannot do it justice; it was just mental.\u00a0 As we set up we could see the crowd as far back as the sound desk, then we came on lights went up and more people seemed to be in, then 2 or 3 songs in the lights went up and I stopped and turned to Tom and went \u201cwhat\u2019s going on? Have you seen this?\u201d (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>TJ: The response yesterday was phenomenal. Opening with \u2018One Fool Down\u2019 and first time in the big boy room, it could have all fallen flat on its face with about 100 people singing but less than 30 seconds into that first song it really did feel like there was 2,000 people shouting those words back as us.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: What was really interesting from my point of view was having been to a few shows, as you can probably imagine. It\u2019s gone from a couple of rows of people knowing the words to where I was stood last night (around 14 rows back) everyone around me knew every word.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You guys did genuinely seem moved by the reaction.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bungle: I welled up I must admit.<\/p>\n<p>TJ: I nearly cried during \u2018One Fool Down\u2019 when it got to the \u201cNever Look Down\u201d bit when that went off the first time, that stopped me taking that next breath and I looked around at Bungle and he was like the Blackpool Beach caricature of a dog with the biggest bone he\u2019s ever seen (growling and laughing) and smiling from ear to ear.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: I wasn\u2019t crying it was sweat in my eye okay? (laughing)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you still get that same buzz Col when you are headlining the Empress?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Colin: Always.<\/p>\n<p>I was only saying to Tom earlier, people always ask us how long are you going to continue doing Cock Sparrer and I say as long as people pack out venues and sing the songs and enjoy themselves that\u2019s good enough for us. When they stop, we\u2019ll stop and it\u2019s as simple as that.<\/p>\n<p>TJ: You know the reason Rebellion is so special is that it is the one event a year where the various sections of the UK punk scene do come together with like one purpose, to have a great time. When we played at 5 pm yesterday it felt to me like the crowd all felt like they had part ownership in the band as they were all responsible for making it such a great event. Same when Cock Sparrer plays, everyone in there feels a part of that band, and their support really means something. That right there is amazing and it\u2019s only at Rebellion here in the UK that you really get that.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-7995 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault-1140x641.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/maxresdefault.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>At this point, I\u2019d like to take you back to 2014 and a rainy night outside the Melkweg in Amsterdam. That night Tom you gave me and Nev (at the time we were both there covering that European Rebellion event for Uber Rock) your vision for this new ska-punk band you were forming. Five years on are you now anywhere near where you hoped you would be back then? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>TJ: I\u2019m there. I\u2019m there (laughing) Yeah of course. We\u2019re touring America 3 times in that the next 6 months. Plus, we\u2019re putting out an album that people are potentially going to hear without us having to do 150 to 200 shows just to get it heard. We will still play that number of shows because we fucking love doing it, but it will get heard regardless now. So, 5 years down the line from that conversation I couldn\u2019t be prouder of the boys in the band, how hard everyone\u2019s worked, how much everyone\u2019s sacrificed and just how good we all got at writing music. It\u2019s been nothing but humbling every step of the way.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67747902_1466192556872354_1738603538809880576_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8002 size-medium alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67747902_1466192556872354_1738603538809880576_n-241x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"241\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67747902_1466192556872354_1738603538809880576_n-241x300.jpg 241w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67747902_1466192556872354_1738603538809880576_n-768x958.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/67747902_1466192556872354_1738603538809880576_n.jpg 770w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 241px) 100vw, 241px\" \/><\/a>And the other person you mentioned being a part of that vision was of course Bungle, so what\u2019s it been like for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bungle: I remember when I first met Tom down on Brighton Beach which was a long time ago on a beautiful Summer\u2019s evening and I said to him \u201cthis will be my last time for putting absolutely everything into doing a band\u201d and he was like \u201ccool okay\u201d and now 5 years later I\u2019m like \u201cwhy did I say that?\u201d (everyone explodes in laughter). What the hell have I let myself in for? Seriously though I don\u2019t regret it for one second. It\u2019s like all the bucket list things I\u2019m getting to do, playing the Empress, touring with Bouncing Souls and The Bronx, playing with Street Dogs. The list just goes on now.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: (who at this point turns to Colin) Well you\u2019re taking a completely different band out with you next year so you won\u2019t be on that list (again everyone falls about laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: To be fair you guys have put everything into it. You\u2019ve not held back and as you said (pointing to Tom) being dedicated to it has been the only way of doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: You get out what you put into it don\u2019t you.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: You know you sell somebody something and you say \u201cit\u2019s gonna be this\u201d but you\u2019re never 100% sure that\u2019s what I did when I hoodwinked you and Nev in that bar in Amsterdam. I was all about telling you it was going to be like The Clash with this real puck rock ethic understanding the ska, reggae and roots origins of where that sound all comes from. I couldn\u2019t believe that it actually turned into just that.\u00a0 (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Or that the bassist I told you about that night could become the bassist he is right at this moment. I tell you there is no other bass player writing stuff like Bungle.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: And what you didn\u2019t do was compromise. You\u2019ve stuck to that ethic when it probably would have been easier to get gigs if you\u2019d changed your sound a little to suit what was in at the time. You stuck to what you wanted to do from the beginning and persevered with that original dream.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: It\u2019s one of those things like when we first started and had the foundation of what we wanted to be we could start to do our own thing and let it grow naturally and let it be what it&#8217;s going to be. If people like it then that\u2019s wicked!<\/p>\n<p>T.J: When we started this though every interview or article always seemed to have somewhere in it\u2026 and features the son of Cock Sparrer singer Colin McFaull, and when that stopped or seemed to stop was when those people actually came out and saw The Bar Stool Preachers.\u00a0 Largely because we went out and did 150-200 shows a year to show everyone what we did, and that allowed us to be us.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/42719760_1229666943858251_1470786747079065600_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-8003 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/42719760_1229666943858251_1470786747079065600_n-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/42719760_1229666943858251_1470786747079065600_n-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/42719760_1229666943858251_1470786747079065600_n-768x509.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/42719760_1229666943858251_1470786747079065600_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>So, you don\u2019t get that anymore? I mean firstly at Uber Rock and now here at RPM we\u2019ve always tried to steer away from it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: Yeah from time to time, and yeah you guys didn\u2019t and Dad and I were both like \u201cThank You for not mentioning it\u201d but if you\u2019re gonna sell tickets or clicks or whatever we understand. We all live in this same fucking rat race where you have to try and get yourself heard however you can, but you guys have always written about US first and that meant when you asked us for a chat we, of course, said \u201cyes\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: We joked a few minutes ago about the UK run of shows Cock Sparrer are doing next year and us having another support band on with us. The simple truth is they have to distance themselves. They have to do their own thing.\u00a0 As I said to Tom if you\u2019re in a situation a year from now where you\u2019re looking to support Cock Sparrer in Wakefield then you\u2019ve wasted a year somewhere. You should be bigger than that by then.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: (shaking his head in disagreement) I get it, but you\u2019re holding us back. If you think we\u2019d go into that tour asking you to help us out and give us a gig then you are wrong. By doing it together we get to choose to do those shows.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: What worries me, and this is the truth, is you commit to those dates now and it\u2019s a year away and then say Rancid came and asked you to go on a world tour with them.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: We would blow you out in heartbeat (this comment is followed by much laughter)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: It\u2019s a little commitment that could come back to bite you on the arse, that\u2019s all I\u2019m saying.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: It\u2019s like when we go back to the really small venues like the Ilkeston thing and people say \u201cyou\u2019re too big to play there\u201d. We\u2019re like \u201cwho gives a shit?\u201d if we want to play a pub in the middle of nowhere to however many people, then we\u2019ll do it.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: And the Ilkeston thing (Ed: it\u2019s changed now to later in the year and has been replaced this time around) has proved that point right because this time it\u2019s the only all-ages show on the tour and people have bought tickets from four hours drive away. Just so they can bring their kids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Okay so with things getting a little heated around the table here, here\u2019s a real loaded gun question for you, and of course bearing in mind who is sat next to you (pointing at Tom). What\u2019s been the real highlights of the first 4 or 5 years of The Bar Stool Preachers existence then?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/66253628_1438078229683787_4956980554139435008_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-8004 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/66253628_1438078229683787_4956980554139435008_n-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/66253628_1438078229683787_4956980554139435008_n-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/66253628_1438078229683787_4956980554139435008_n-768x574.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/66253628_1438078229683787_4956980554139435008_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: That\u2019s a great question, and its one we\u2019ve not been asked before.<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: There are multiple ones for a multitude of different reasons. I think The Slackers tour was our first big one and they really taught us a lot about being on the road<\/p>\n<p>T.J: They communicate with each other as musicians on a level that I have not seen since. It\u2019s like they communicate out of the corner of their eyes to a bandmate 10 foot away and suddenly its 1-2-3 and they are off, and as still relatively new musicians that is unbelievable to watch. So suddenly we\u2019re going like \u201cif they can do that, we can do that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: Perhaps what ties all this together is that whoever it is we are playing with when we learn something and take something away regarding how to do it better that is a highlight. So, going on tour with Sparrer I learned how to play my bass lower thanks to (Steve) Burgess (laughing), but whoever the band is we are always picking things up be it as musicians, or even something as silly as learning on how to get from A to B quicker.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: You should try being normal size and not Bungle size and try sound checking his fucking bass and its touching your ankles (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: The learning though never ends, that never stops and whatever band you play with you should be watching and learning about how to do things better.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: So, cast your mind back to Mighty Sounds in the Czech Republic in 2017 (then follows a long silence as you can see Colin thinking) and Cock Sparrer have never done a call and response live before. Yeah, Bungle you can laugh it up as you were there for it, and I\u2019m glad you were as this is proof. You had never done one before at the end of the set, and you saw it being done by another band and you said to me \u201cI\u2019m gonna do that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Colin: (laughing) And how was it?<\/p>\n<p>T.J: (shouting) Much bigger than any of ours!!! (laughing) But at the end of the set, he did this mighty long note, looked over at me and Bungle and raised an eyebrow and I thought \u201cI love that cunt\u201d. (much laughter follows this comment)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: Oh yeah that was the same gig that we put the backdrop up upside down. Intro kicks in big build-up crowd is going bonkers and backdrop falls to reveal the Forever logo upside down. (laughing). I was standing next to Will (Murray, Sparrer\u2019s long-time road manager and sixth member) and said \u201cWill the backdrop\u2019s upside-down\u201d, and he goes \u201cyeah you\u2019re right\u201d, and I\u2019m like \u201cyou\u2019re not supposed to just agree with me you\u2019re supposed to be like fuck yeah I\u2019ll sort it now\u201d. Brilliant!<\/p>\n<p>T.J: To go back to the original question another highlight has been some of the incredible bills we\u2019ve shared, Street Dogs taught us a lot, The Slackers, The Interrupters taught us a lot and Sparrer of course taught us a lot in the long run, and most definitely not how to put backdrops up.\u00a0 But to be good at something you learn in whatever you do in life, an apprentice chippie on a building site will watch how the others do things and take little things away to make life easier and that\u2019s just what we do.<\/p>\n<p>The next 2 years are going to be bigger and more exciting for us in terms of support slots than anything we\u2019ve done so far, and that\u2019s no disrespect to anyone I\u2019ve mentioned so far, but we\u2019re going back to play with Die Toten Hosen once again for an all-new run in front of 15 to 40,000 people, Bouncing Souls and The Bronx you know these are bands that we listened to growing up<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images-1-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8005 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/images-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" \/><\/a>Looking forward to the next Bar Stool Preachers album then, how much do current world events impact you as songwriters?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: There\u2019s a real disparity between reality and what people feel comfortable to say and experience in the real world. It\u2019s really very, very hard to live without feeling like a hypocrite about feeling guilty with people going on about; you travel it\u2019s your carbon footprint, you eat a steak you\u2019re killing the environment. There\u2019s nothing you can do that there isn\u2019t some smart bugger going, \u201cthis is slightly wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For us, in terms of the message we put out for the first album we were almost talking in clich\u00e9s, for the second album we were trying to tell stories. For album number 3 a lot of what we\u2019ve got to say is about genuine questions we have to ask right now. That\u2019s because right now is a very explosive time to come of age and it\u2019s a great time to write about. I mean what happened at Grenfell? What happened to the Panama Papers? Why are British bombs destroying Yemen? Like where are these questions in our day to day life? If they are not there, then people, maybe like us, but we\u2019re still a relatively small band, there are a hell of a lot bigger bands who could be saying a hell of a lot more, but why aren\u2019t people saying it? Trouble is there aren\u2019t that many flagship points that people can rally behind at the moment that\u2019s not already propagated in fear and its really hard as a band to not talk about all this. In our opinion.<\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of bands who write songs about summer and love and surfboards and all that and are playing the same fucking 3 chords over and over..and<\/p>\n<p>Colin: (chipping in) What\u2019s that about ironing boards? (everyone falls about laughing at this point)<\/p>\n<p><strong>So, can music really change the world? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: You never understand the real themes and energies of life until you experience them for yourself. Your deaths your marriages your births whatever they may be and they don\u2019t always happen as big things sometimes they are microcosms. Me I just feel the whole system needs a reboot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How important is the US then to The Bar Stool Preachers?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/download-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7982 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/download-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"305\" height=\"165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/download-3.jpg 305w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/download-3-300x162.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 305px) 100vw, 305px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Colin: Sorry I\u2019d nodded off there for a minute. (Laughing) The US is one of the biggest markets out there but you have to come to play it to come to terms with it, you have to be clever about it and do it in a specific kind of way, you certainly can\u2019t scattergun it. So as the guys tell me the more they go back, the more friends they make and the more records they sell so it&#8217;s all healthy.<\/p>\n<p>With Sparrer the first time we went to the US was 2000, well we did go in 1978. We were coming out of the record deal we\u2019d sold all our stuff to go, the idea being to take demo tapes and tout it around the record companies to see if there was any interest and we flew on Freddie Laker for \u00a340 to New York we spent 3 days there and no one was interested. There was a guy who used to work at Decca had moved to the west coast so we thought we\u2019d go and see him, so we drove across the Sates in an Oldsmobile with no air conditioning and then spent a couple of weeks in Los Angeles trying to get some interest.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: You should have done some shows.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: Yes, we should have, we just didn\u2019t have the opportunity to do any. So, the first time we played there was 2000 and we did New York CBGB before we went up to Boston before flying to Los Angeles which was a riot and then ended up in San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/52509233_1328513407306937_8263871566924742656_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-8006 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/52509233_1328513407306937_8263871566924742656_n-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/52509233_1328513407306937_8263871566924742656_n-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/52509233_1328513407306937_8263871566924742656_n-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/52509233_1328513407306937_8263871566924742656_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>What about Bar Stool Preachers being the Def Leppard of the punk rock scene, as in breaking the US before the UK? I mean you are signed to an American label after all in Pirate\u2019s Press<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: (laughing) Def fucking Leppard\u2026. Yeah alright. As for Pirate\u2019s Press, like any good parents, they just let us do our own thing only do it more. For us its been more about redistribution of our efforts. Like we\u2019re only doing this one headline UK tour this year in September (dates below) and that\u2019s of course because we\u2019re spending nearly 3 months in the US. We have this amazing fanbase in California and we don\u2019t know where it started or where it came from and we are playing all the way through October with Badcop\/Badcop who are fucking amazing.<\/p>\n<p>As for the UK punk scene, I don\u2019t think that\u2019s there at the minute to be broken.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you not think that is kind of restricting your appeal though by simply labeling yourselves as punk? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>TJ: Hmm that\u2019s an interesting point because we do have the biggest demographic of non punk fans and I suppose that\u2019s on top of us pulling 3000 people in the Empress at 5 pm on a Thursday afternoon.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So, are you like the punk band it&#8217;s okay for your mothers to like?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22154286_1501693596551359_5564740547959732911_n-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-8007 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22154286_1501693596551359_5564740547959732911_n-1-213x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"213\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22154286_1501693596551359_5564740547959732911_n-1-213x300.jpg 213w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22154286_1501693596551359_5564740547959732911_n-1.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 213px) 100vw, 213px\" \/><\/a> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bungle: Yeah I\u2019ll take that. (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: (laughing) I can just sense a new tattoo coming on here.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: I suppose it\u2019s how you look at punk. I think there are loads of new up and coming punk bands who aren\u2019t going to be looking at it the same way as The Bar Stool Preachers do. Because for us punk is not a genre, it\u2019s an ethos. Look I understand I\u2019m really privileged to have grown up with this all around me and I can remember a lot of it right from the age of 6, so why wouldn\u2019t I want to be in a punk band? Everything I knew that was cool before I knew what cool was was punk hands down. So, if the mainstream world isn\u2019t into punk right now then maybe they fucking need to be. As an ethos.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve never played as a punk band though, and we\u2019ve never billed ourselves on a Cock Sparrer\/Oi! ticket and that\u2019s because we make the music we want to make and it&#8217;s about inclusion and community that is much bigger than punk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>With both of your bands planning extensive UK tours I just wanted to say how refreshing it is to see you doing this, and not playing just the odd one or two shows in London and Manchester like most other bands seem to do these days.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: And which you did for many years (looking to Colin)<\/p>\n<p><strong>So why the extra dates?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Sparrer-Live-2-by-Sam-Bruce-640x427.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7996 size-medium alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Sparrer-Live-2-by-Sam-Bruce-640x427-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Sparrer-Live-2-by-Sam-Bruce-640x427-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Sparrer-Live-2-by-Sam-Bruce-640x427.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Colin: For Sparrer there are two reasons really. 1.) is that Sparrer have always preferred It up close and personal and 2.) it\u2019s the reaction we get when people see we are playing places like Wakefield. Now we\u2019ve always been very privileged in that our fans our friends have been willing to travel to come and see us live so perhaps its now our turn to give something back and just like we\u2019ve always done it to try and play places we\u2019ve never done before and tick that box.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: But you have a duty to your fans as leaders of the scene to give venues like the Robin 2 a little bit of time a little bit of daylight<\/p>\n<p>Colin: And whilst I agree regarding this, it&#8217;s really more about making it easier for people to come and see us and not have to pay \u00a3400 to see us at a one-off in Amsterdam and instead they can pay \u00a325 to see us in Newcastle or wherever. Of course, the real reason we\u2019re doing it is because we had so much fun the last time we did it. I mean we played Cardiff and got out alive, that\u2019s good enough for me (laughing)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Although Col one of the bands sat here is playing Cardiff on their upcoming tour and the other isn\u2019t <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(A cheer goes up from T.J and Bungle as I\u2019m of course referring to their show in Clwb Ifor Bach on 21<sup>st<\/sup> September.)<\/p>\n<p>T.J: Yes and I believe it\u2019s only \u00a310 a ticket for one of our shows too (laughing)<\/p>\n<p><strong>So just to wrap up what\u2019s up next then for you both?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65745859_1431377997020477_3576779593660497920_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-8008 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65745859_1431377997020477_3576779593660497920_n-300x198.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65745859_1431377997020477_3576779593660497920_n-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65745859_1431377997020477_3576779593660497920_n-768x507.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/65745859_1431377997020477_3576779593660497920_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: Loads more touring and of course album number 3<\/p>\n<p>Bungle: To keep on writing better music and better songs really<\/p>\n<p>T.J: For album number 3 the benefit is we now know what we\u2019re doing, we\u2019ve defined our sound, we know what our bits are. For us we found that some of our favourite recordings for the songs on \u2018Gracie Governo\u2019 were on our phones as voice notes and you know maybe we potentially overproduced those songs on the record. So, what we\u2019re going to do on this next album is. We\u2019ve got 35 songs we\u2019re going to pick 20 and then over 8 days we\u2019re going to record all of those songs live then we\u2019re going to put them out there to get the opinions of people we love and respect \u2013 like mum. (cue much laughter) Then we\u2019ll get 11 or 12 tunes that we can go in and record properly<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there a temptation to drop more in the set? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>TJ: That\u2019s another great question. We think album number 1 is better than album number 2 because album number 1 was written with live audience feedback. When we played \u2018Eye For An Eye\u2019 last night second half I had no idea what was going on I was making it up as we went along. For album number 2 if we\u2019d toured those for 12 months I think it would have been a much bigger album.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not being critical of the last album I\u2019m incredibly proud of Gracie Governo it\u2019s just that the whole process was another of those learning points we\u2019ll take into album number 3.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Late Night Transmission\u2019 is another new one we played and that\u2019s likely to be the lead track on the new album it\u2019s our \u2018Police And Thieves\u2019. It\u2019s a direct lift anyway, but don\u2019t tell anyone. (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>Colin: Mick Jones don\u2019t exactly need the money. (laughing)<\/p>\n<p><strong>And what about Sparrer Col is there another album in you guys?<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/610cocksparrer-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-8009 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/610cocksparrer-1-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/610cocksparrer-1-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/610cocksparrer-1.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Colin: As I said to you all those years ago, we never say never. We\u2019re in the fortunate position that as \u2018Forever\u2019 was funded by us we had control over everything, and that\u2019s the only way we\u2019d do another album. We\u2019re certainly open to doing it and we\u2019re writing new songs but as with \u2018Forever\u2019 if the content wasn\u2019t going to be good enough, we certainly wouldn\u2019t have released it. \u2018Forever\u2019 though we\u2019re very proud of, and we love that album and there\u2019s no reason why we shouldn\u2019t do another one.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well with that awesome prospect in mind is there anything you wanted to add just to finish off?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T.J: Just that with everyone seemingly wanting our band to succeed right now is extremely humbling and we\u2019ve got some really great people pulling for us right now so I\u2019d just like to say \u201cThank You\u201d to all of those people, and I hope to see some you on the road over the next few months.<\/p>\n<p>Colin: What\u2019s been most refreshing for me this weekend has been how seeing how diverse the Preachers fanbase is, the lads mentioned before the interview about the older lady on the barrier and in front of me were two young children on their parents shoulders, and that\u2019s what its always been about for me and Cock Sparrer. You can come and see us whatever your age, colour, religion or sexual orientation, if you want to come and hear the songs, we\u2019re happy to have you there and its brilliant to see it\u2019s the same with the Preachers.<\/p>\n<p>T.J: And that\u2019s because it\u2019s about family and not business.<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you are looking to be a part of the family for either of the bands upcoming UK tours then you can catch them at the following venues;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8010 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"766\" height=\"766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n.jpg 766w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rpmonline.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/64367962_1421428068015470_2738071045956173824_n-65x65.jpg 65w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 766px) 100vw, 766px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>The Bar Stool Preachers (all dates are 2019)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sept 13th Kingston \u2013 The Fighting Cocks<\/p>\n<p>Sept 14th Derby &#8211; Hairy Dog<\/p>\n<p>Sept 15th Manchester \u2013 Star \u2018N\u2019 Garter<\/p>\n<p>Sept 16th Leeds \u2013 Brudenell Social Club<\/p>\n<p>Sept 17th Newcastle &#8211; Trillians<\/p>\n<p>Sept 18th Glasgow \u2013 Stereo Cafe<\/p>\n<p>Sept 19th Carlisle \u2013 The Brickyard<\/p>\n<p>Sept 20th Blackpool \u2013 The Waterloo Bar<\/p>\n<p>Sept 21st Cardiff \u2013 Clwb Ifor Bach<\/p>\n<p>Sept 22nd Bedford &#8211; Esquires<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cock Sparrer (all dates are for 2020)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>27th Mar &#8211; The Robin 2, Wolverhampton<\/p>\n<p>28th Mar &#8211; Waterfront, Norwich<\/p>\n<p>4th Sep &#8211; Rescue Rooms, Nottingham<\/p>\n<p>5th Sep &#8211; Concorde 2, Brighton<\/p>\n<p>25th Sep &#8211; Manchester Academy 2, Manchester<\/p>\n<p>26th Sep &#8211; Warehouse 23, Wakefield<\/p>\n<p>9th Oct &#8211; Roadmender, Northampton<\/p>\n<p>10th Oct- The Fleece, Bristol<\/p>\n<p>23rd Oct &#8211; O2 Academy Newcastle, Newcastle<\/p>\n<p>24th Oct &#8211; The Garage, Glasgow<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/thebarstoolpreachers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bar Stool Preachers<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/cocksparreruk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cock Sparrer<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cock Sparrer @ Rebellion pic courtesy of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Dod-Morrison-photography-119349811428086\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dod Morrison Photography<\/a><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1140\" height=\"641\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-spSa9iyZ-E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fast rising Brighton based ska punkers The Bar Stool Preachers are just about to embark on their biggest UK headline tour to date, whilst tickets for the legendary Cock Sparrer\u2019s 2020 Not The Albert Hall UK club tour are one of the hottest on the scene right now. 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